Total Motile Count

tillie

Thought it might be nice to start a thread where people could report in on vials of donors recently used and what the TMC and motility % was so that others may know which donors are looking potent and which they may want to consider avoiding. If you've had an IUI (or ICI) recently, what were your donor's numbers pre and post wash?

manda210

We used 4034 last month for IUI and I was told it was 55 million I'm guessing post wash since thats how it was sent to the doctor...my doctor said it was a GREAT number and from what I read it is BUT it didnt work =( hopefully next time it will tho

karlip79

Just did my first IUI with donor 2973 His total motile count was 10.1 million motile after washing. I bought the unwashed (ICI) vial, because my doctor likes to do the washing process himself in his office. This is a newer donor with no reported pregnancies, but I am hoping to change that after my (grueling) 2 week wait! Good luck to all og you (:

maria2

I used donor #2959 - purchased ICI (unwashed) b/c my doctor's office washes...post-wash it was 50+ million with 37% motility. Doctor told me that its' a bit slow but not to worry about it. I'm going to get inseminated again soon with donor #2959 (yes, again)....hopefully this time it will work. I'll email with #s later.

Two2148Sons

I just want to caution that the counts in the vials aren't always indicative of whether you will succeed. I used the same donor for both of my children. With the vial that I conceived my first son, the RE clinic said it was one of the best samples they had seen of a thawed sample. With the vial that I conceived my second son, the RE clinic said the count/motility was pretty low and said I might even qualify for my $ back or a replacement. It also ended up being an ICI due to the nurse not being able to get the catheter in. I was so bummed out. I figured bad sample+ICI = zero chance. Well, I conceived that cycle (even had a positive HPT at 8DPO). I have two perfect little boys, one from a great sample, one from an iffy sample!

tillie

maria2

Ok...so I was confused. My #s were pre-wash for #2959. I had my 2nd iui and his numbers pre-wash were pretty much same...51 million with 37% motility. Now on to 2ww....

Fairfax Cryobank

tillie

manda210

Used 4034 again today for our IUI...his total sperm count postwash was 58 million this time and i checked the mobility this time and it was 35%....now the 2ww...i hope that it works this time

tillie

Did you get the total motile count number post wash instead of the total sperm count? Apparently, the most important number is the total motile sperm count post wash, which should range from 3-5 million (on the way low side) up to something like 10 or 20 million. Maybe it gets a bit higher but I don't think a TMC will be much higher than that. The 35% is what takes the 55 million of the total sperm down - they do some complex calculation using those numbers and the amount etc.

tillie

manda210

Im not sure I just read the paperwork that came with the sperm to the doctors office it said 58 million and 35 percent

karlip79

Used 2973 last month (10.1 million) unsuccussful, switching donors this month to 4008. 11 days til IUI. will keep you all posted as to the count of the new donor 4008.

moewhit

Just had my #3 IUI today I used donor 4187 his prewash=58 mil, postwash=38 mil with 42% motility. Hope it works this time:-)

karlip79

Hi ladies, Went in today for my 2nd IUI (first was unsuccussful last month) and am actually a little dissappointed. Total motile count was only 4.6 million motile post wash today. ): This was significantly less than last time.( 10.1 million motile with a different donor) I do not blame fairfax, they have always been wonderful to deal with, and I understand these things happen and there are quality assurances in place, but of course it is a bummer, I did have 3 good mature follies, and I know it takes only 1 good swimmer so I am trying to be hopeful in spite of the number. The donor I used was 4008. I guess I will have to keep my fingers crossed and update you all in 2 weeks!

babynumber2

Hi ladies! I had my first IUI today and 4001 count was 13 million. The doctor said that was a really good number. It hasn't even been 12 hours since the procedure though and it already feels like 12 years--these next 2 weeks are going to be a killer!

sibemom

Not sure how the count really equates... but as I am going to mention in another thread for the donor, 2976... I had my second attempt today. At the onset my doctor comes in and says "we need to talk" and she proceeded to say that looking at things under the scope there was barely any movement and she asked where I got it from. Kind of disheartening.

tillie

sibemom

It is IUI ready - already washed. I mean, with the small vial that comes - I can't imagine them using it for testing this that and the other. I have the numbers that Fairfax gave me when they put it into storage, which meets their 10mil threshold. I've read and read and this stuff all seems so foreign and I'd hope you wouldn't have to verify the experts, ya know?

tillie

karlip79

Hi there, just a quick response about the low count or motility. I purchased ICI vial from 4008. The number pre wash was only 6 and a half million , and went down to 4.6 post wash. Fairfax guarantees 10 million , and will issue a refund if a complaint is propperly filed by your dr.'s office within 10 days. I am confident the thawing was done properly, I live in Las Vegas and my IUI was performed by Dr. Sher who literally invented IUI in 1982. (I know because he reminds me every time I see him! lol) We still did the insemination, but obviously I am not letting myself get my hopes up too high. As for the mom considering California Cryo bank, My Dr. gets so many poor samples from them he literally recomends patients to look elsewhere. I believe bad samples can happen anywhere, but are fewer and further between here, plus, I know it is a bummer to waste a cycle, but the $ guarantee is in place to protect you and your wallet. We have decided to order 2 vials next time, because the nurse said if I had another sample available she could have combined the two, now my only dillema is weather to switch donors or not, since with the last sample even if I would have combined two like vials, I would still not have reached 10 million. Hmmmmm. Food for thought. any sugguestions? :?

jl2011

Fairfax Cryobank

karlip79

So, I am really torn as to what to do now. I had an IUI 1 week ago with the poor sample mentioned earlier in this thread, I just love this donor, and would like to use him again if pregnancy is not achieved this time, but I am wondering if one sample was poor quality from this particular donor, does that mean he is more likely to have more poor quality samples when compared to other donors, or is each poor sample an isolated incident? Any info or sugguestions?

Stellafaerie13

I realize this is an old thread, but I think it's a useful one. I just received donor 5104, with 10 million TMC but only 35% motility. Planning first IUI this month, natural cycle, home-monitored. Will try to remember to post results asap.