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IUI for the 5th time?

moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
So I went to my original doctor to discuss my options to move forward after 3 Clomid cycles and 1 Menopur injectible cycle all where unsuccessful. And I also had two cancelled cycles due to hyperstimulation 1 on Clomid and 1 on Menopur. The donor numbers have been great each time except for the first Clomid cycle.

After moving back to my home state, I had another initial consult and basically the doctor will do whatever I want. I don't want to recreate the wheel but what I've been doing doesn't work. He suggested IVF with egg donor with the 100% guarantee or money back. Well money back is like 29K!!! NOT an option for me. Then he said that by the time I go through the adoption process it would be close to that. REALLY?? I haven't done my research on that but does anyone on this forum have an idea how much domestic adoption usually costs??

Then I asked if the fact that I'm healthy and had 4 unsuccessful cycles mean this is a sign of infertility? He looked me square in the face and said yes. I was crushed. I have no health issues but because my eggs are 41 years old, this may not happen for me. So pissed what the hell was I doing 10 years ago??? Oh, yeah dating losers and knowing I didn't want to have kids with "him". :x

Doc said we could do a second cycle on injectibles, he suggested Femera, but I told him I have 10-20 days worth of Menopur sitting at home. He said that we could use the Menopur but he will start me out on like 1/3 of the amount of what the previous fertility center started me on. Femera was suggested because it is more user friendly but at this point I'm so used to mixing and dosing the Menopur that's totally fine with me.

I had the worst AF :x this past week, bled like a stuffed pig for several days and CRAMPS!!! Both never occurred in the past. But the meds jacked me up! I'm finally starting to feel like a human after my hormone levels were through the roof! Will certainly need time off to give these weary ovaries a break from all this stuff! I will try again in two cycles, late October.

Good luck ladies and lots of sticky baby dust!!

All the best!
Moe

Comments

  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe,

    Sounds like you've got a real handle on things and that's a good thing. Yes adopting is very pricey and just as emotional as what we're already going through. I started out thinking I'd adopt but then when I found out that they normally use 25% of your adjusted gross income as rough figure of what to expect to spend I was like well IUI is definitely a cheaper option for me! So off on this path I went. My doctor is not giving up yet and neither am I and honestly if it gets to that point where she thinks I can't do it on my own I think I will definitely explore donor eggs because I would still rather carry my own baby. Not saying that they're arent loving children who need to be or are ready to be adotped, this is just my personal choice.

    I have made a decision though that this next cycle is going to be drug free other than the trigger shot I always get (unless the doctor has a new secret potion for me!) I'm so tired of the shots plus I'm out of everything with the exception of a couple of doses and my body responded differently (I went from CD 3-8 the first time I used them & got BFP and second time I went CD 3-10 which I thought was way too long and got BFN). I think just doing my acupuncture and yoga is going to be the course of action this go round plus I still have one more out of pocket anyway if it doesn't work. My acupuncturist is on an unexpected medical leave with her husband so she referred me to another one so I'm hoping to see her this coming week and all the way up to and after the IUI this time.

    If the doc is willing to trade you Femara for your Menopur then I'd do it, otherwise I'd use it up girl! Just the fact that he is going to decrease the dosage and adjust accordingly is a great thing. That's great news for your friend and good that she was considering your feelings. Speaks volumes to what kind of friend she is and who knows, maybe you'll catch up with her soon:)

    Best of luck to you Moe and even though you aren't moving forward until October, please stop by and keep us company! We'll need your support:)
  • dreamsabc123dreamsabc123 Senior Member Senior Member
    Adoption can be expensive, but don't forget about the children in foster homes of all ages (including infants) and races who are just waiting to be adopted! Adoption from foster care is also free! Additionally, until the adoption is finalized the state pays you (not much though) to care for the baby or child. Some children and babies in foster care have very little or no special needs or health issues while others have a lot. The social workers will always be honest with you and tell you about each child available for adoption and you don't have to say yes to the first one. Remember that paying for a private adoption doesn't guarentee a healthy baby and having one on your own doesn't guarentee you one either. If you just want to be a mom and are looking for a baby or child to love there are plenty in the foster care waiting to be placed in a forever home just waiting to be loved and adopted for no costs at all. It's something to thinbk about, but it's also not for everyone. I just thought I would mention it though.
  • sibemomsibemom Member Member
    I've never seen anything indicating that foster care adoption is free... for that matter, everything I had looked at made it sound more economically feasible to try and have my own than to adopt, regardless of status. Can you provide additional information? Is this something that might depend on the state? I've also noted that most every child listed in foster care has some hefty issues. Sure, you can have an unhealthy child of your own, but, unfortunately, some of the kids in foster care have some serious baggage.

    I pray that no one reads this reply as being harsh. I truly don't intend to misrepresent things in a negative light, this has just been "what I have seen".
  • dreamsabc123dreamsabc123 Senior Member Senior Member
    Adoption through foster care is absolutly 100% free regardless of your state. The younger the child or the baby the more likely there is a legal risk. You do get your own social worker assigned to you and you can tell him or her that you only want children or babies that are no legal risk at all, medium risk or high risk. You also get to decide which things you can work with children babies addicted to born or just a baby that was neglected because it was a teen mom who had the baby and didnt know how to care for it. Babies left in "safe havens" go to foster care for adoption after a certain amount of days and they tend to be mostly healthy, usually jusat teens who didnt want the baby or didnt know how to tell their parents. Its very sad, but it happens. There usually is a longer wait for the healthier babies, but you can decide what you can handle for needs in a child or baby. A baby could be born with asthma, hearing loss or mild loss of sight. There are also more cases of shaken baby, and babies born addicted to drugs. Although you might have a longer wait for your baby, it will always be free no matter what baby you get or what needs it has. If the baby does have a medical condition (even if its asthma) AND YOU ADOPT THAT BABY OR CHILD, THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFY TO BE ON STATE HEALTH INSURANCE EVEN AFTER THE ADOPTION. While the baby/child is in your care, until it becomes adopted the states pays you a minimum of $15 dollars a day, all children under the age of 5 get WIC (free formula/food) and quartly clothing allowances. Once the child/baby is adopted you will stop receiving money for the child from the state unless the child is sopecial needs and has a pre adoption subsidy. All children adopted through foster care can attend any state college for free. It might be a long wait for your baby/child but it may be worth it and you might find out there are some needs you dont mind your child having such as asthma or mild hearing loss. You will NEVER have to pay to adopt a child through foster care though and theres thousands of children and babies who need a loving home. You can also be single, married, divorced, lesbian/gay, rent or own your home and they dont even ask you how much money you have in your savings or what your credit score is. They are just looking for people to be caring parent(s) and with a job, your income doesnt even matter much. They just care that you can support yourself and child off of it whatever it is.
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi Moe,
    I'm so sorry....I feel your pain....I'm going on my 4th IUI soon and feel very similar to how you feel, not sure what to do. I'm pretty sure that if this 4th IUI does not work, I'll move on to adoption. Insurance doesn't pay for the injectables and I just paid over $1300 today for meds. My 3 previous IUIs were with Clomid 50 mg and luckily it was $5 copay for those....but obviously unsuccessful.

    I have worked in adoptions for over 6 years through the County (doing foster care adoptions)...which also includes birth parents who want to relinquish their newborn babies. Another thing I wanted to point out is AAP.

    From website, http://dcfs.co.la.ca.us/adoptions/
    The Adoption Assistance Program (AAP) is a federal program of financial assistance for adoptive children. Although there is eligibility criteria, all adopted children who were dependents of the court qualify for AAP benefits.

    The adoptive child is eligible to receive AAP until the age 18. In some cases, where the child has a mental or physical disability, he or she might receive AAP Program benefits until age 21. AAP will also pay up to eighteen months in a licensed residential treatment facility if the child has a documented need for residential treatment.

    A child who qualifies for AAP benefits is also eligible for health care services through the Medi-Cal program. Medi-Cal can be used for most necessary medical services. When the adopting family has private medical insurance, Medi-Cal can be used as a supplemental plan.

    I'd just read and ask questions about adoption in your state/county...

    http://www.nacac.org/about/about.html
    http://www.adopt.org/assembled/home.html
    http://www.childsworld.ca.gov/PG1303.htm
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Thank you so much for the information and resources. I feel like this is all such an overwhelming process. But I appreciate your thoughts Maria and Dreams. I'm waiting for AF to show (should have been here today) so I can begin the cycle for my 5th IUI. I'll post updates soon....

    Wishing you all lots of baby dust and luck! Remember stay encouraged!!
    M
  • dreamsabc123dreamsabc123 Senior Member Senior Member
    Good luck!!!!!
  • Anne72Anne72 Senior Member Senior Member
    I'm in the tww of my 5th IUI and also just signed up for a Los Angeles country adoption orientation session. The session isn't until Dec and I will hopefully be pregnant by then. But I just felt like I had to start working on two paths.
  • dreamsabc123dreamsabc123 Senior Member Senior Member
    Adoption is def. a wonderful option.
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Well today was cycle day 8 and I started on Menopur 75 IU last Sunday, cycle day 3. So far the only thing I've noticed is some mild night sweats. But nothing too horrible like crazy moods, nightmares, or eating everything in sight. Fortunately my estrogen has been slowly rising with this low dose that I've been injecting each night. Today the doctor saw one 15mm follie on my right and another slightly smaller one on my left. I'm scheduled for another ultrasound and bloodwork tomorrow. They are probably going to monitor me very closely (daily?) from now until my IUI. I'm glad that things aren't ramping up like the previous cycle on injectables. Who knows what to expect but perhaps I will be ready to trigger by Monday? I have two vials of a donor that is no longer in the program but from the paperwork, the sample looks like it already has a low count pre-thaw. I'm thinking I should probably ask if I can do just the one IUI with both samples combined instead of doing back to back IUIs with two low count samples. I've read that doing a single IUI 36 hrs after trigger has the same success rate as two back to back IUIs. I would love to hear your thoughts on this ladies :ugeek:

    Anne72, is it time to test yet? I'm wishing you and everyone else on this journey lots of sticky baby dust. Good luck and remember to be encouraged! It WILL happen when it's supposed to happen.

    All the best!
    Moe
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Well I just had my 5th IUI this morning. So this makes my 2nd round on injectables. I combined my 2 donor samples and the count post thaw was 36 million and 39% motility. With previous donors I've had similar numbers with a single vial. So I guess it was a safe bet that I combined the two. I had two mature follies on the right and another on the left that is probably mature today. So three targets with a pretty good sperm count!
    I'm really trying to boost my odds of success this cycle.
    I started acupuncture on a weekly basis last month.
    After the IUI, I inserted a cervical cup and kept my hips elevated almost a half hour. I also did pelvic floor exercises (Kegals) Not sure if there's anything behind this but it cant hurt. :D
    Now I'm just taking it easy, not rushing around or going to work.

    I plan on going to acupuncture tonight and I've got my pineapple that I'm about to slice the core out of. Oh by the way, yesterday my left ovary was VIBRATING. At first I thought that I forgot to remove my beeper from work. It was not strong but sort of low pitch vibrations that were very weird. Today, not so much but definately last night. Perhaps the left was doing some last minute growing. But I certainly had mild throbbing on the right last night which felt more like ovulation. Maybe I'll shoot from both ovaries?? TWINS??!!

    I would certainly be blessed with whatever I'm supposed to have.....

    Here's to hoping we all get our BFP's in two weeks!!!

    Moe!
  • GeminiJaiGeminiJai Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe-

    Sounds like you, maria2 and latebloomer area all in the 2WW together and I couldn't be more excited for the three of you! I'll be thinking of you all, sending positive vibes, and hopes of very sticky baby dust! {{HUGS}}

    Best Wishes,
    Jaime
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe,
    Here's to that pumpkin seed or two sticking! I am sending you lots of baby dust! I am hoping that you will be able to join me in this land of BFP's. I have looked at a few pregnancy forums but they are complicated to navigate and honestly I feel such a connection to all of you that I would like to have a buddy through all of this!

    Here's to a positive end to the tww for all of you, Moe, latebloomer and Maria and charlotte, I know you won't be far behind!

    LOTS of BABY DUST!

    Robin
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    Good luck Moe. So excited that you had your iui today. Wishing you a sticky little turkey! I can't wait till we all get to join you robin. I am definitely ready.
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Woohoo Moe!!! Yah for the TWW!!!! I also did acupuncture, pineapple core, etc...trying everything. Definitely can't hurt. Keep us posted! One week almost down for me...one more to go.

    Thanks everyone for positive thoughts/wishes!!! I really hope this is it for me! Otherwise, I too will be signing up for adoptions probably in beginning of 2012...

    Here's to a BFP for all of us!!!! Keeping positive thoughts for us all!
  • sweetpeasweetpea Member Member
    I am on CD 12 and should have my 5th IUI any day now. I have switched to #4004 and might use both vials for this one. I just know this time it work. I am a little late to join your TWW, but I am right behind you!
  • sweetpeasweetpea Member Member
    I got a surge today, so tomorrow is baby day for me. Lucky #5 here I come!
  • dreamsabc123dreamsabc123 Senior Member Senior Member
    Good luck everyone!
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    Wow it's so crazy that so many of you are in your 5th tww together. Good luck to all. I am a little behind everybody. I am hoping af shows up as scheduled tomorrow or Friday. :). I can't believe how fast the month of fun went.
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    So exciting to have all this company in the TWW! Good luck and lots of baby dust!!
    Moe
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