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  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    YAY! I'm glad that you decided to go for it. I agree with latebloomer, just think of it as insurance or peace of mind. I have been preoccupied with this two week wait and haven't been on this forum often. But I'm always curious about my cycle buddies and how everyone is doing. I'm still trying to "ignore" my symptoms, today had lots of cramping by my right ovary and my groin area felt weird (like I had done a split one too many times:). And you don't even want to know about the GAS, the PMS funky moods, the munchies, and the fatigue. Can't stay awake past 9 p.m. and the early morning nightmares. Just crazy dreams like I'm dying or being tortured so I want to die. I have to make myself wake up because it's so scary and feels real. I'm going to blame it on the Ovidril I took last Monday and the Progesterone I've been on since last Wednesday. Still too early to test for now. I'm really trying to hold out until next Wed 23rd, which is when you ladies will smack dab in the middle of that dreaded 2WW. Good luck and keep me posted on your progress.
    Moe
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    I am actually excited to try again. I am feeling much more confident since I have double the follicals I had last time, and my body is taking the drugs much better this time as well. I hope its all good signs! While I did by the vials I really hope this one takes as then it would be a half sibling to my daughter. Now just to stay up until Midnight Wednesday......that is the challenge.
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    I had my IUI this morning and will return tomorrow morning for round 2 and then the 2WW begins. I'm very preoccupied with work right now so I'm hoping between that and the taxes the 2 weeks will fly by without me realizing it! I felt different going in this time. It was a different kind of peace and calmness. I'm not sure if it came from knowing what to expect or what. Not looking forward to the crazy symptoms like I had last time from the trigger shot and progesterone inserts but if I get that BFP then it will all be worth it.

    I was very sad to find out yesterday that a friend of mine had a miscarriage over the weekend and she was almost 5 months and was going to find out the sex next Monday. It was so heart breaking to hear that and be excited for myself at the same time. I decided I would be sad for her because I can be happy for me later. she & her husband had been trying for quite some time and her sister was looking into the IUI route but is not a good candidate for it and can't afford IVF. I felt bad but I guess the man upstairs has his plans for us all!

    Good luck ladies and be sure to post updates!
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Oh, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend having a miscarrage. Darn! At 5 months we all want to breathe a sigh of relief to be out of the first trimester. Unfortunately, anything can happen. We just have to say positive and hopeful throughout these experiences. I hope that your friend is comforted by loved ones through this difficult time.
    I completly understand what you meant by that feeling of calmness during this second round of IUI's. I knew what to expect this time and it was better. I didn't have the uncomfortable cramping or spotting afterward. Just some slight ovulation aches but nothing like before. I'm trying to "ignore" the hot flashes, gas, and crazy vivid dreams. Plus two days ago I swore I felt something trying to attach to my uterus. I had moderate sharp cramping which was intermittent over the last two days, which happened to be 7 and 8 days past IUI's. I think that's around implantation time?? Now today nothing just slight twinges now and again but nothing like the past two days. I read on the What to Expect website that some people can test 10-11 days past the IUI and get a BFP. Now I think I will take one of my $ Tree cheap HPT on Sunday and then again on Wednesday. I just ordered a refill of my Prometrium which was $200 for a 90 day mail order supply. YIKES!!!! When I went to the Target pharmacy I've been paying $150 for 30 pills. It will really suck if I'm not preggo because I will have all these freggin pills!!! Okay, I'm not going to go off on a rant. :-(

    As always, lots of baby dust ladies!! Can't wait for you BFP posts!!
    Moe
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    The 2WW starts now! Going to be a long two weeks, but yet theres a new calm to it this time verses last time. Things are totally different.
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Same here on the calmness bluesky so maybe that's a good sign! 2WW started yesterday for me. Saying the number of days we have to wait out loud doesn't seem like it's that long but being the person waiting, it seems like forever!

    Moe, I thought it was just me with the dreams! It was way crazy when it first happened! I was dreaming about people I haven't seen in years and woke up thinking, now why the heck am I dreaming about him/her? Geez Target is making a killing on the meds! I have to say I lucked out on mine though, they're only $13 for 30 day supply of the inserts and the trigger shot was only $27 so I haven't dumped out a ton of cash on that thank goodness and at my doctor's office they gave me a $500 break on the IUI price this time.

    I went back Wednesday for my second round and the doctor was not available so her nurse practitioner did the deed and when she was done she stood next to the table and i thought she was going to talk to me but she came to adjust the table. She gave me no warning and I literally thought I was going to slide off the table head first! She was fixing the table so that my hips were elevated and my head was down. No biggie but some warning would have been nice. I laughed so hard because I could just imagine how my face looked! I'm sure it was a kodak moment!

    Well lots of baby dust to the 3 of us! I'm going to have to do cheers with the sparkling white grape juice out of my wine glass!
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    I dont have to take anything more during the wait. I do go in next Fri for the P4 test. I wish my shot was only 27, mine costs me $100
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Its so crazy how the costs vary greatly huh?! I have insurance BUT it sucks if it has anything to do with so called infertility! ZERO is covered. I'm starting to get angry annd frustrated behind this process. Its three months of throwing money ($5200 to be exact) to the wind!
    I'm waiting for my beta Friday and AF sometime around Sunday. Not feeling hopeful. Hope your cycle is a good one!
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    I have insurance too but since I'm not considered infertile then I have to be trying to get knocked up on my own for 6 months before they kick in any money so like you it's all out of pocket. Now my prescriptions so far have been covered thank goodness with little out of pocket costs. I don't even want to see what I've spent so far but I bet it's close to $5k. I have my beta next Monday w/AF due Tues or Weds. I had my progesterone test yesterday and I'm at 33.1 and she said anything over 20 was good so I'm keeping my fingers crossed! I feel normal this time whereas last time I had the "phantom"symptoms only to find out they were from the progesterone & HCG shot combo so I'm hopeful.

    Are you considering IVF at all? My RE will do 3 IUI's before additional consultation. I just don't know if I can do all the meds for IVF plus the expense! Right now my train of thought is do the IUI up to 6 times and if still no BFP then do IVF when the insurance kicks in. Guess I'll have to cross that bridge when I get to it.

    Good luck this week! Let us know how it goes.
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    Luckly I do have insurance. IT covers ultrasounds and bloodwork. It doesnt cover meds, sperm or the procedure. IT costs me about 1,000 out of pocket each try.

    I too feel normal this time. THe only thing is im am extreamly tired and I need my mid day nap. I am also craving excess water then normal. I have no desire to test, or have the 2ww jitters. ITs all going pretty well for me this time. I have to call tommorow to set up my progesterone test on friday.

    I dont want to test until next Wen which would put me at 12piui.
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    You ladies have to check out these "sniglets"! They are hysterical! Enjoy!

    http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/humor/sniglets.html
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    I am a bit worried as i cant get in to get my progesterone test today. I am out of town on emergency so hopefully its all ment to be and thats not an issue.
  • baileynoahbaileynoah Junior Member
    Hi:
    I was 39 with my first anonymous donor baby and was offered no clomid etc. even with a history of 2 miscarriages with my ex husband in my 20's. I did it again at 42 and had the last "donor unit" available that I used for my first son so I said give me everything you have and took 5 days of clomid and an HCG shot and was successful and so grateful.

    I am a nurse and think that it is totally ok to share your clomid questions with the nurse practitioner or MD, Shady Grove is huge and maybe they have protocols set up and not exactly needed especially since you have no trouble ovulating. Good luck I wish you the best.
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Well, the 2ww is over. I'm out, the beta came back negative. The doctor suggested doing a HSG to see if my tubes are blocked. I've been extremely depressed and will wait until June to revisit all of this. Have to save up and also my donor is out of samples for now. As always, wishing you ladies lots of sticky baby dust. All the best! Oh thanks for the laughs, I had plenty of chuckes looking at all of the funny TTC words :-)
    Moe
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe, sorry to hear that. I have until Monday to find out. I've actually been so busy this time the 2 weeks have gone by quick and I'm not going to cheat this time with the HPT. I only have a few more days so I can make it! I too am going to take a break if I get a BFN this time. I was worried about tonight though, I had to do a happy hour thing for work and of course had no interest in drinking so I managed to make it through the night sipping on water. Although one lady did say, are you PG and I just shot back no not unless I got it at the grocery store because that's the only place I've been!

    I had the HSG before I started down this road and it showed "wide open" (my doctor's way of putting it!) Will this be your second one or did they not do that before you started? I think back to making the decision to move forward with this and I was so full of hope that I didn't really prepare for "what if it doesn't work". Lots of thinking to do if BFN this time. Still got a couple of days so I'm hanging on with fingers crossed!
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Hi latebloomer,
    I opted not to have the HSG in the beginning. It was my thought that I really didn't need this "extra" expensive out of pocket procedure. My doctor didn't push the issue but did say it would need to be done if there were unsuccessful cycles. Looking back, I wish I would have done it initially. But there still aren't any guarantees.
    I had my first drink since Nov/Dec last night plus a huge cup of Starbucks right after my bloodwork. At happy hours I would descretly order sprite and cranberry juice with a lime wedge or water with a lime. If someone overheard I would say its part of my New Years resolution or I'm taking an antibiotic. People can really be nosey!
    Glad your 2ww is zipping by ;) Best wishes!
    Moe
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    I to am keeping my hopes up this time. I have no feeling of aunt flow yet, but it isnt due until next friday. I am going to not test until Wen. that would put me at 12 days. I havent had any of the weird signs like last time. Yesterday I did have some occasional bad cramps in my left side, just like I did when I ovulated. So hopefully that is a good thing.

    I so hope this time works as this is the last of the vials for the donor I used and would at least give my daughter a half sibling.
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi Ladies, I'm out this month as well. The Beta came back negative today. I talked to the nurse to see if she had any suggestions before my next attempt and she said to maybe take meds since I've been doing totally natural cycles and have had all the tests and those are all clear. She also suggested mini IVF which is basically IVF but not with all the meds only some of them. Not sure which way to go at this point so I think I'll have a chat with the doctor first before I decide. Glad I'm skipping March! It will give me some time to think! One thing's for sure I'm having a glass of wine tonight!

    Well Blue looks like it on you! Best of luck to you and let us know how you turn out.
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    At day 11(1 one was the day of the IUI on the 18th) had a positive home test. The doc had me go do a blood test to check levels. Come to find out later she didn’t realize I was this early in wait time.

    I got the results today. She seems to think it’s the ovidrel still in my system even though it was 12-13 days after the shot.

    The previous cycle it was out of my system by day 10, maybe earlier but didn’t test until day 10.

    She said my levels are low for a pregnancy until she realized how early it was and then proceeded to say they were really high (hcg came back as 18) considering it was day 11 and that she isnt sure its an actual pregnancy.

    That said Im all worried now, so I went and got more tests, one for every day until Friday when she pulls blood again. I tested just a few mins ago. Yesterdays line was faint, and only about half visible. Today’s is a full line, and darker. Still faint but very noticeable.

    I am still 100% positive I am preggo. My period is due either thurs or fri. I have no period signs and normally I spot for 2-3 days before my period actually starts.

    Friday cant come fast enough as I want a for sure thing.

    My nose is on over drive I smell things others dont and suddenly cant ride in my partners car as it smells like peroxide.
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Hi Ladies,
    Latebloomer I'm sorry about your BFN. I was really hopeful for you. I know how hard it is to get a negative Beta because you know that's the real deal unlike POAS at home. I'm glad you are taking some time to regroup. I didn't realize how much pressure I was putting on myself each month. I actually feel relieved and haven't taken my basal temp in almost a week! I just wake up and start my day without the all consuming thoughts about my temps, cervical mucus, or POAS. It's fine for now but I know that I will have to revisit this in a few short months. Hang in there and good luck with your next cycle.
    As for you Bluesky, CONGRATS on your BFP :-) I don't think the test was picking up the Ovidril because it's usually gone by day 10. So I hope that your numbers for Friday are way up!! Please keep us posted. This is a very exciting and I'm sure nerve-racking time. It's almost Friday girl! Good luck and lots of sticky baby dust!
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Bluesky that's great news! Can't wait to hear the official word tomorrow:)

    Moe I decided to make another consult with the doctor because I actually sat down and wrote down everything I've spent so far and I did not like that number! It was sickening to know I've spent that much money and have nothing to show for it. Sigh! So I made an appointment for next Tuesday to ask a plethora of questions and see where to go from there. I know it's not a guarantee doing this at all but I don't seem to be as positive about it as I was before so I guess I need a little reassurance. I too am glad to be taking the month off but I do think I'll use my overpriced digital ovulation monitor to make sure I still ovulate on my own this month so more POAS next week! If you think of any questions you think I should ask please let me know!
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    Honestly, if it were me I would go with only one insemination a cycle. This will save a ton of money. There really isnt any research that says more then one is any better.

    I would go with a single one at 36 hours. You have 12-24 hours to get the gets after ovulation so either way your covered. Most women do not ovulate until around 36 hours after.

    I ovulated 33 hours after my last shot. I had 4 eggs by taking clomid days 3-9.

    Thanks guys. Right now the blood test is just a added "yes". I know the test are right. Got another positive today so that is 3 days in a row and today is day 12 of my wait.
  • MealoneMealone Junior Member
    Ladies, reading your exchanges made me sad...I have u all in my prayers....it shall be well for you all...it is just a matter of time. Keep your heads up and NEVER give up....what is yours will come when you least expect it. :)
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    well its not looking to good for me this time around either. Had a very positive test this morning and then two hours later I was bleeding. Waiting on the blood test numbers for sure, but I honestly can imagine by the blood and it being dark and thick that this will stick..............

    I need a break after this.
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    Well despite my bleeding the numbers went up. They were 18 on day 10 today on day 14 they are 123. I have to do another blood tests on Tuesday.


    Praying little one hangs on..........
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Good luck to you Bluesky. Let us know how it goes. I'll be praying for you. I have been doing a lot of reading on the boards at WTE and I've got to stop it! It's truly information overload! I think my main problem is that I need to get my juices flowing so back to yoga I go and I also just found out my insurance covers accupuncture so I'm going to try that as well. I'm getting back to where I was mentally and now am thinking maybe I shouldn't have taken March off but as mealone says, what is to be will be and I am satisfied with that.

    You know how I said I was going to have that glass of wine?? Well something in me won't let me drink so it's been sparkling white grape juice disguised as wine! baby dust to all!
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Well, I wish I didn't enjoy my two and a half glasses of Reisling....but it was delicious. Also had my favorite sushi rolls and a cup of java. Not all in one day, but over the course of a week. It's been since November and since I'm taking a break from all this fertility stuff until May, I indulged. BUT, I also started back to the gym and will be back to yoga this week. I was so stressed and nervous about going to the gym early on. I know it's good for you but I didn't want to take any chances. The hope is that I will continue going to the gym and yoga and establish my routine so that I will continue during the time of conception and birth.

    I'm praying for you bluesky! Everything is going to be just fine. Hang in there girlie :-D
    Moe
  • ladymacb29ladymacb29 Member Member
    moewhit wrote:

    On a side note, today I drove to Fairfax to pick up my donor vials. It saved me about $200 and it was only a 25 minute drive to get it and then about an 1 hour to my doctor's office. It really didn't register in my mind that I would actually be handed a nitrogen tank which I had to carefully pack securely into my car so that it didn't knock over. The Fairfax employee told me to treat it like it was a baby. YIKES, I'm a crazy NY driver in D.C which has some of the most seasoned aggressive drivers. With the ice storm on it's way I was so scared I would flip my SUV on a patch of black ice. Anyhow, I made it safely to my destination and now have to return the empty nitrogen tank within ten days or Fairfax will charge me.

    I felt weird carrying this huge tank through the parking lot of the hospital. I felt like everyone was reading the labels on the sides which read cryobank, gif, do not tip, etc. Anyway, who cares what people think right ;)

    I was thinking they had little 'tank cozies' that are knitted to go over the tank!

    I talked to the tanks when I had them in the car... And I felt like taking a picture of the vial before the procedure as a sort of first baby picture!
  • bluesky10bluesky10 Senior Member Senior Member
    Well, had my 3rd beta today. Numbers came back at 709! The number more than doubled, and the spotting has lightened so I think we are doing good!
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    moewhit wrote:
    Well, I wish I didn't enjoy my two and a half glasses of Reisling....but it was delicious. Also had my favorite sushi rolls and a cup of java. Not all in one day, but over the course of a week.
    Moe

    I was reading all these posts...and just reminds me of what my girlfriends and I always say....how we tried to prevent pregnancy when we were younger and now we're all so desperately trying to get pregnant in our late 30s/early 40s. How sad...my 2 WW is over tomorrow....and it's been painful. During the 2 weeks, I've been desperately googling things wondering if I'm experiencing pregnancy signs....tomorrow will be it. If it's negative, I guess I'll be enjoying some drinks, sushi, and starbucks for sure! :D
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