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  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Ok, no wine was enjoyed, but that dip, man was it awesome! Of course, I now have heartburn and have been enjoying tums, but worth it!
    End of talk about libations and food, for now anyway...

    Went in for the transfer, everything went smoothly, I'm resting and relaxing and trying not to float away as I live in Broome County, NY where there is terrible flooding going on right now. So much for being stress free! I am so glad I went in for a day two transfer because the roads to get there are closed and flooded now.

    They gave me two pictures, one taken @ 0730 in the morning, and another I assume was right before the transfer, I don't know what it means. I did ask about fragments, and cell numbers, but the doctor just said it was perfect, no fragments. It looks like three bubbles together to me, but biology was a long time ago for this nurse.

    I'm finally going to shower and go lie down with a book, I lost phone service but not power or internet thankfully. I don't work until Saturday night, and am not being evacuated yet. Just waiting to see if any evacuees need a place to stay and keep my mind off the 2WW!

    Look forward to hearing some updates from everyone, and we don't have to talk about food... I'm so hungry all the time! :o
    ~Regan (who should have invested in an ark)
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    I am so excited for you! Maybe you will be the first of us to say one follicle or in your case one embryo and one bfp! You don't know how much hope that gives me! I'm so excited to here that the follicle fertilized and started to split! I will be sending lots of prayers up for you!

    Keep up the updates! Something needs to help me wait for af to come!

    Yesterday I was hit with why this month didn't work! I was at work from 9 am til 11 pm! It was one crisis after another that I had to deal with! I would have not been home to give myself the shot at 9 pm and I did not bring it with me because I am usually home well before 9 pm! So once again I was reminded that I am not in charge and that someone has a plan for me and I have to trust in that plan. Although sometime it is not easy waiting for the plan to happen I need to sit back and relax and try to enjoy the ride and learn something along the way!

    Keep you head up enjoy the next two weeks and keep me updated!
    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Hey Robin,
    I posted a reply (or thought I did), can't figure out why my internet is in and out so much lately. It's either because of the flood in the area (likely), or because I'm so hungry on these hormones I've eaten my ethernet cords (also very likely).
    I'm sorry to hear you are working such long hours (I hope that isn't often) and under stressful conditions. I just got off working a 16 hour shift that I had agreed to do before I knew I was having my transfer this week. I'm beat, and about to shower and head to bed (after I put in my suppository of course). I just took it as easy as I could at work, and thought about how I'm getting paid overtime. My schedule is changing next week to work 5 eight hour days, instead of working 4 ten hour days I have been the last few years, and I'm so bummed about that. I really enjoyed working 4 straight ten hour shifts, then having three nights off, it's so hard working nights to have some kind of life! Of course, now that revolves around when I can take injections, making sure I have access to keep the ones that need to be in the fridge cold, etc.! I know you know what I mean!
    So about medicines... Crinone and Estrace is what I'm taking now, while I'm in my 2ww, with prenatals, baby aspirin and Lovenox (prophylaxis for anticardiolipid antibodies). But the hunger! It pulls me from my bed, it consumes me! And I know that even if "Engelbert" has implanted and I am producing Hcg and pregnant, I should not be this hungry. I seriously thought I might have a tapeworm the other day. Gave it serious debate time in my head, what else could it bed!
    So that's my update (again). I should have seen something coming when I was making buffalo chicken dip and then spent 200$ on extra groceries this month! But I bought a lot of fresh fruits and veggies, so I attributed the cost to eliminating the junkier foods. 7 more days, then I can take a blood test! I don't think AF shall arrive before then, since I'm on the Crinone, I usually have to stop taking progesterone to start a cycle, although last time I was in the 2ww I had cysts on both ovaries and needed provera :twisted:
    I hope everyone here is doing well, I hear the fridge and it's been at least 25 minutes since my last meal, so I better go eat an apple and go to bed! (I read that helps with GERD/Indigestion, and I am suffering horribly with that since I stopped Protonix several weeks ago) Nothing but tums for me! Thanks again for all the well wishes and support, you guys are awesome!
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    While I am not in a tww, I am anxiously awaiting your results! Here's sending you LOTS of baby dust for a great big BFP this month.

    It sucks that your work schedule is changing. Having 3 days off can be great. Right now it feels like I am working 10 hour days 5 days a week, Oh wait I am! :lol: My schedule changes with the group of kids that I am working with and how they are doing. I work at a residential setting with teenage boys and girls. I can't belive that the full moon just got here today because I swear it was here last wednesday, that is when all went crazy with the kids. I don't care what anybody says..... the cycle of the moon affects behavior! Any one who doesn't belive should work in a residential setting for just one full moon!

    Still waiting for af. Talking to my favorite ovary nightly and have been singing her praises. I just hope she is listening. If my dog is right, than I am going to be ovulating soon. I know that sounds crazy but I have a male dauchshound that is not fixed. he has been going crazy, especially while I was on the shots of gonal-f. My poor nuetered girl dog! She just sits and watches him, telling him with her eyes to hurry up and finish. I can't do anything to get him to stop. I have to be sending off lots of pheremones! (sorry for the spelling at this point just doing my best ;) ) he has taken off about a week and has not been doing anything and then today, bam he is at it again. I really hope that means that my favorite ovary is doing her job and that AF will arrive shortly!

    Sending lots of baby dust too you!!!

    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Robin,
    Your post made me laugh! For many reasons, but the dog stuff is just too funny. My girl is fixed, but she acts like she's in heat around me, so lovey-dovey sometimes....
    I'm short on time, but I wanted to let you know that I work as a nurse in a psychiatric center for kids, so I get them before you, usually! And boy, are you right on with the moon thing. I always cringe knowing the full moon is coming! Funny we work with the same type of kids. I did have a scare just this morning, a kid was really upset and got a little violent swinging and kicking at me, and I was nervous about my belly (not that I have a positive yet, but it COULD be, you know what I mean?) But I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my job, just not the way my schedule is changing, and the stress and anxiety I'm feeling from what I hope are pregnancy hormones. I've even had some heart palpitations! So, it's time for me to go take a long shower and lie down and read, take time for just me, and think happy baby thoughts.
    I'm hoping for ovulation for you! Next month what are your plans? I'm trying to keep up, honestly, there's just so many different protocols everyone is doing!
    Good luck,
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    ok this is too weird.....similar jobs and similar ovaries. Do you think the low ovarian reserve has anything to do with the job?! ;) Sometimes I think that we have to be mothers to the kids we work with.....maybe that has depleted our blessed follicles!

    So I am waiting for af to arrive. Once she does I go in for a baseline ultrasound to make sure there are no cysts and then I start the injections at 450 units each day. After 4 days I go in for another ultrasound and a level check. If my levels are over 100 than we are good for the month and I continue the shots. I am going to do a back to back iui this time. My doc said that if I got a good response.....meaning 2 follicles he thought that would be a great idea....Me if I get one follicle I am doing the back to back! It only takes one! each month I am not able to get a follicle i dread because I get worried that it is one month that goes by that another follicle is gone. My doctor would say that it was not a good follicle any way so I am not losing anything. Last time I had no response, I think I ovualted 2 weeks later this time I truly belive that I ovulated either yesterday or today. Crazy how we get to know our bodies! This means it is only about a week later this time..... I am hoping that the less time between the ovualation is a good thing but who knows. Meanwhile I just keep talking to my favorite ovary.

    Scary situation at work with the kids arms and legs. During my tww I am always scared that one of the kids will have a melt down and will need to be restrained for their safety and ours. During that time I try not to be alone with the kid in those situations so that nothing will happen.....but you never know. I have thought about what I would say, can't say that I wouldn't throw out, I may be pregnant. With most of my kids and the relationship I have with them, I think it might get them to stop for just a second and calm things down. I am glad that I have never had to say it becasue I really don't want to let everyone know what I am doing. there ate a select few at work who know. I told them before I really started becasue I just knew it was going to happen the first time. Looking back I wish I had not told any of them but hindsight is 20/20. Any way becasue they know, they would not question if I told them that I needed to tag out of a situation and go get others for help. Obviously I would never leave a coworker stranded but then again I am usually the one that works on the deescalization skills with the kids and I talk them down any way. I love my job as well and I love the kids. There is never a boring day and I never know what to expect when I go to work. while the work is very rewarding it can also be very draining and we need to make sure that we utilize great self care like you did with the shower and the book. I am going to use good self care tonight and go to bed early! :D

    It is so nice to have someone else in a similiar field that is going through the same thing!

    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Looks like I took a little too much "me" time this week, Robin! I was in my room for literally 24 hours, all I did was get up to snack, feed the dog and cats and let the dog out. Luckily, the dog is more of a couch potato than me. I even threw a toy at her and felt guilty, she just looked at it and "flumped" into bed. I read two books on my Kindle, and I guess I needed my days off this week.
    I hear you when you say you wish you hadn't told people. I told a few, which turned into many that I was trying, and now they all want to know if I'm pregnant! My beta is tomorrow, I don't know HOW I haven't caved and used an hpt, I think I just can't hold my urine that long! But it's hard, I know they all have the best intentions, and are trying to be supportive, you just lose a piece of privacy, that I feel maybe I shouldn't have said something. But I lack a filter in my personal life sometimes, and I can't take it back now! I got the cutest card with some scratch off tickets from one of the safety officers, I'm so superstitious now I was scared that if I didn't win it would mean I wasn't pregnant! I hate reading every little thing into a yes or no sign! (And I won $5!)
    I guess that's where I'm at today, waiting until tomorrow morning, leaving work early, and then trying not to stalker call the office for my results. I don't know how long until I can try again, if I'll have to wait for AF, go back on Provera or bcp, I just don't know. But there's a big part of me still cautiously optimistic, I guess I was just hoping to feel something different. Still hungry all the time, sore boobs, moody as :twisted: , but I think we all know that could be the estrogen and progesterone.
    So, for today, I made a really healthy breakfast including fresh pineapple (and have stuffed myself) and off to shower and bed I go! I have a guilty pleasure of liking some football, (us girls can like that, too I hope!) so am taping the game to keep me occupied tomorrow while waiting for the call.
    Here's hoping for some luck to be spread all around! One thing that I do believe, if it's not MY month, then that means it's someone else's month, so I look at this as sharing my joy! Just something that helps me deal with disappointment...
    Best wishes,
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    Can't wait to hear the results tomorrow! I'll stalk your docs office for you! Here's hoping that all is pointing in the positive directon for you!

    I know what you mean about signs. Last month when buying my hpt I made sure to get on that said pregnant on the box. One I looked at said not pregnant, I could not get that one! Here's a sign for you..... you won 5 dollars and if you add up the numbers in the date tommorrow they add up to 5. 9+1+9+2+0+1+1=23 which breaks down to 2+3=5! So numbers add up that must mean something right! ;)

    Have a good day at work and post those results! That great big posive!

    Robin
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    " One thing that I do believe, if it's not MY month, then that means it's someone else's month, so I look at this as sharing my joy! Just something that helps me deal with disappointment...
    Best wishes,
    ~Regan[/quote]


    This is the line of the week....so positive and so supportive of you Regan! We are all hoping and praying you get your time to celebrate today!!!! Lets all think good thoughts for a BFP today!!

    Charlotte
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Robin,
    I really loved the numbers thing! Unfortunately, it didn't work for me, this month. Got a BFN. I can't say I was surprised, I did cave this morning and take a hpt, so I was more prepared, and I feel crampy, bloated, although not nearly as cranky as usual! Now waiting for AF, and hope I can jump into another cycle, with a higher dose of meds, now that we are prepared for a poor response.
    The worst thing was feeling nauseated on the way to work last night, I let myself get a little hopeful, as I'm sure we have all been guilty of. I KNOW in my head it was too early for morning sickness anyway, and told myself that, but alas, it just wasn't meant to be!
    So who's taking a BFP this week!
    Thanks again for the support, maybe now I can indulge in a glass of wine until AF arrives!
    Good luck out there ladies,
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    I am so sorry! I was really hoping for that big BFP! You have such a positive outlook! I will try to have the same. It's crazy how the meds we take mimic the symptoms we are all craving to have! I understand the Nausea thing......this last time nothing really tasted good, smells upset me and I had to walk away and the symptoms lasted the whole 2 weeks. While I knew they were associated with the trigger shot, the symptoms had never lasted that long and so I too was very hopeful!

    I hope that you are able to get 2 follies this time to fertilize! What dose were you on for your shot? I start at 450. That isalmost one vial each time! There is just a very small amount left, so small that I usually don't try to keep it bc it really isn't worth it. Just curious to see what dose you start at!

    Here's too october!

    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Hey again Robin,
    I started at 300 last time, but the vials had 900 in them, so I had three doses. After 5 days on that dose and my first u/s, they increased to 450, which I stayed at the whole time, but I still got two days (doses) out of each vial. I'm hoping they at least start me at 450, if not 600, I really don't know what the maximum dose is, and you have to weigh quality over quantity, and pushing out too many might make the quality poor, etc. All these things the doctors have to know about.
    But here's to OCTOBER! Halloween is my favorite holiday, anyway... and I love to decorate almost as much as Christmas! Almost...
    ~Regan
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Regan wrote:
    Hey again Robin,
    I started at 300 last time, but the vials had 900 in them, so I had three doses. After 5 days on that dose and my first u/s, they increased to 450, which I stayed at the whole time, but I still got two days (doses) out of each vial. I'm hoping they at least start me at 450, if not 600, I really don't know what the maximum dose is, and you have to weigh quality over quantity, and pushing out too many might make the quality poor, etc. All these things the doctors have to know about.
    But here's to OCTOBER! Halloween is my favorite holiday, anyway... and I love to decorate almost as much as Christmas! Almost...
    ~Regan
    Hi Ladies :D

    So nice to have internet again! I've missed you all. No one to chat to about this challenging journey and all the drama! It sounds like I will have several October cycle buddies.
    I just finished AF a few days ago and it was just like clockwork when I wasn't on any meds. I went for a new consultation at a new acupuncturist a few days ago. It was a much better experience that previously with the other place I went to before I moved back home.I was so relaxed afterward I really had trouble driving the 5 miles home. I slept extremely well that night and actually overslept and was late for work. It really put me in a zen mode (which isn't an easy feat) I can't be very high strung and stressed out most of the time. She recommended that I come once a week for 4 weeks and then re-assess. There is also a yoga class offered which I will try to join. Hoping there will be a difference in how I respond to this next cycle.

    This is all in prep for the next cycle which will start around Oct 19?? AF has been right on time so here's hoping she won't delay. I have two samples of an inactive donor (2849) in storage. So the plan is to do one cycle in Oct and then one last one in Nov. Then I think I'm done because that will be 6 total IUI's three of which would have been on injectables.

    Although it's been a different type of stress, I feel better about this next cycle. I feel renewed and have a better sense of what lies ahead. I hope that everyone is keeping a positive outlook and staying encouraged! Wishing you all lots of baby dust!

    Moe
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe,
    So glad to here from you! Glad to hear you had a good experience with acupuncture, I go in for my first appointment on Monday. I am hoping the af arrives on time sometime this week...she should come around the first. All the signs are there saying she os around the corner! Fall has always been my favorite season! I feel good about this month. I am going to do a back to back this time.

    Here is too October :D

    We missed you! Glad to have you back. I have missed your wit and your advice!

    Robin
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    robin wrote:
    Moe,
    So glad to here from you! Glad to hear you had a good experience with acupuncture, I go in for my first appointment on Monday. I am hoping the af arrives on time sometime this week...she should come around the first. All the signs are there saying she os around the corner! Fall has always been my favorite season! I feel good about this month. I am going to do a back to back this time.

    Here is too October :D

    We missed you! Glad to have you back. I have missed your wit and your advice!

    Robin

    Thanks Robin!
    It's great to be back! How was your appointment today?? I had my second acupuncture session today. She used the same placement as before and I really felt the points on the top of my foot by my big toe. There were several on my lower abdomen and then she put the infared lamp over that area. I need to confirm that she doesn't use the lamp once I'm preggo. Since that's deep heat don't want to cook the eggs :oops: The other points like on my forehead and the top of my head were a little bit noticable but then things tend to settle down and I go to sleep. I'm sleepy now :|

    Anyway, let me know how things are going for you!

    Lots of sticky baby dust is sent your way.

    Charlotte and Christy how are you? Where are you in your cycles?? I hope we can all be Oct cycle buddies!!

    Oh by the way, I heard there's going to be a 1 hour documentary special on The Style Network called One Man, 74 kids and counting......It's tomorrow Tues Sept 27 at 9 pm. I finally got internet and phone but no cable installation until Oct 10 :twisted: Hope it's not like a train wreck....

    **Baby dust**

    Moe
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Aw man, I wished I had read this post earlier, and could have caught that show, thanks for the heads up, Moe. Maybe we can both catch it when it's aired again... Glad you at least have internet!

    A little happy news on my end, 6 follicles at my first u/s yesterday, and an improved Estrogen level! Last month I was only at 45, I'm starting at 88 this time! Still not as high as I'd like, but I go back on Friday. I am so excited! 6, I said, REALLY? Is that hyperstimulation, is 6 too many, apparently, for me, 6 is just right, but anything over zero would have been just right. :D

    One side effect is GI distress from the high dose of follistim and menopur, talk about yuck! I'm also eating healthier and increasing my fiber intake, so I wasn't sure who did what. It's the meds, definitely the meds! :shock:

    Hope everyone is doing well... I'm starting ten days of vacation and am focusing on positive thoughts, and of course cleaning and rearranging my house for my Aunt who is coming to visit from FL. I've just disclosed all the "baby making efforts" and it was quite a shock, as it wasn't willingly! But I'm sending some of my positive thoughts and energy out to you all! Good luck!
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    Oh my goodness 6?! That is great! And an estrogen of 88! Sounds like a good cycle to me! I bet your estrogen will at least double by Friday! Who knew 6 was possible! Those positive thoughts have surely helped! I will keep praying for you! Here's to more than one sticky bean to transfer! Although you and I know it only takes 1!

    I am still waiting for af to start....listen to me....I'm talking as if she is late and sheks not! She should be here by Friday or Saturday and I will be right on schedule! Some days it just feels like forever since I have seen her! When in actuality it will just be 30 days on Saturday. Hoping to join you in your quest this month! I have another acupuncture appointment on Monday. I have been feeling very positive this week! Can't wait to try again!

    Sending lots of prayers and baby dust your way!
    Robin
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Regan wrote:
    Aw man, I wished I had read this post earlier, and could have caught that show, thanks for the heads up, Moe. Maybe we can both catch it when it's aired again... Glad you at least have internet!

    A little happy news on my end, 6 follicles at my first u/s yesterday, and an improved Estrogen level! Last month I was only at 45, I'm starting at 88 this time! Still not as high as I'd like, but I go back on Friday. I am so excited! 6, I said, REALLY? Is that hyperstimulation, is 6 too many, apparently, for me, 6 is just right, but anything over zero would have been just right. :D

    One side effect is GI distress from the high dose of follistim and menopur, talk about yuck! I'm also eating healthier and increasing my fiber intake, so I wasn't sure who did what. It's the meds, definitely the meds! :shock:

    Hope everyone is doing well... I'm starting ten days of vacation and am focusing on positive thoughts, and of course cleaning and rearranging my house for my Aunt who is coming to visit from FL. I've just disclosed all the "baby making efforts" and it was quite a shock, as it wasn't willingly! But I'm sending some of my positive thoughts and energy out to you all! Good luck!
    ~Regan
    WOW!! SIX FOLLIES :D That's awesome! Thankfully your estrogen isn't sky high because that's when you could develop the hyperstimulation syndrome. When I had 4-5 mature follies my estrogen was over 2400. I was a HOT mess! Then my cycle got cancelled because I most certainly would go into hyperstimulation if I did the trigger shot. Heck, I probably would have imploded from within :oops:
    Your situation sounds much more promising and I'm hoping that your cycle will be a success. Keeping you in my prayers and fingers crossed!

    Girl, when I was on the Menopur, I had aweful smelly gas!! It burned my nose hairs :shock: I always eat lots of veggies and fruits so it was most certainly the Menopur causing my GI stress. Can't wait to hear about tomorrows appointment. Please post your updates ASAP :P And kick back and enjoy your 10 day vacation!

    All the best!
    Moe
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi Robin and Moe,
    Robin, I still think it's funny to wish for AF to arrive and be so eager about it, but I know what you mean! Here's to joining me in October!
    Today's appointment was a success, my estrogen is 394, so I am very pleased that it isn't SKY high, but rising appropriately. Still only 6 follicles, and no I didn't mean to say *only*! I just mean no new ones!
    So very excited, and staying positive. My Aunt is coming to town, I'm about to leave to pick her up, and we have done "Christmas cleaning" a little early, so I can sit back and not worry about anything too heavy for when I get pregnant! (I typed *if* I get pregnant this month, and went back and changed it, positive thinking!)
    I start the ganirelix tonight, since one of my follicles is 16mm, although I think the smallest one was only 10. I hope them not all being the same size doesn't make it more difficult, but I'm not waiting for any shoes to drop.
    Hope you all have a great weekend, I'm doing a dog walk tomorrow for an AIDS research foundation, I think they even paint your dogs nails! Then going to an apple fest on Sunday, so fun, fun!
    Ok, off to the airport, best of luck everyone!
    ~Regan 8-)
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    Iam SO HAPPY for you! I don't think they all have to be the same size. I am just amazed that you have 6! AF came full force today right on schedule! I will be going in for an ultrasound tomorrow and acupuncture on Monday. Here's hoping I get a good response.... not 6 but maybe 2?!

    Your estrogen numbers look good! Isn't it crazy how things differ month to month!

    I really am enjoying the book my acupuncturist gave me....I like the eastern philosophy on all this. I will be talking to her about herbs to add and things to change in my diet. From what I am reading it looks pretty drastic but I will try to follow it. It almost sounds like a vegan diet. Not sure I can cut out all animal products but can definately cut a lot out.

    Sounds like a fun weekend!

    Robin
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Ladies,
    I got the all clear today! No cysts! I start 450 of gonal f tomorrow, acupuncture on Monday on blood test and ultrasound on Thursday! Hoping to get at least 1 ;) if it goes like august I will be ready on Thursday.....hoping the acupuncture will help a follie to grow and that it takes a little longer but whatever happens this month happens! Today I am excited and hopeful that I get to start the journey!!

    Here's to my little pumpin seed growing and sticking this month!

    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Yay Robin! But I have a question... THIS Thursday? I guess I must be slow, it seems I'm on the stimulation drugs for 12 days or so.
    I hope you enjoy your acupuncture and everything goes well! I could NOT follow a vegan diet, well, any diet, I just end up wanting what I can't have too darn much! But I'm still making healthier eating choices. It helps that it's major apple fest season here, with some great fall weather. Tonight, steak, salad and spinach. I'm going to forget the rolls, and keep my baked potato plain!
    I'll be thinking of you Monday, I have more blood work and u/s, I guess I'll get a better idea as to retrieval date then, but I wasn't expecting to go in until next Monday!
    Cheers!
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan
    Right now I either grow them fast or not at all! Yes I did mean this Thursday! It is really early as you should ovulate at day 14 or 15. I am thinking that I will not be ready on Thursday as that will be day 8 and last time I was at day 11 but I started the shots on day 6. That was the really weird time it was, hey the blood work came back good let's see what this month brings....it ws later than usual but we thought what the heck! That month a follie grew and 5 days on the injectibles it was ready. I am hoping to go longer on the injectibles....hoping they grow just a tad slower but I hope they grow! I am hoping that the acupuncture helps with is process! I will be talking to my ovary extra the next few days! I told her how proud I was of her and that I knew she could do this when I got the all clear at the docs! I have to admit I did a little dance in the elevator on my way down!

    After reading further in the TCM book... the issues I have don't call for a vegan diet Dboy am I glad, I do like meat) have to watch the milk, processed meat. And need to eats lots of warm vegetables. It recommends no cold drinks, no ice cream. Lots of other stuff but not asbad as I originally thought. Its funny how some of the things I crave sometimes like garlic and peppers. I have never liked ice in my drinks any way....I wonder if my body has always been trying to get into balance!? Its been a great read and I need to get the book for myself!

    Good luck on Monday! Hope the estrogen comes back higher! Lots of baby dust to you!

    Robin
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Yay Robin! NO cysts! I know you are thrilled. When I was on Menopur they started me on day 3 and by day 7, I had to stop the injections because of my strong response. I was monitored daily and my Estrogen would more than double with each shot. It was like a runaway freight train...even after I stopped the injections everything still kept growing.

    Now the next cycle will be slightly different, changed back to my original MD and he wants me to take a third of the dose and go VERY slowly. Part of me wants to see if it will work without meds but at 41 years young :? I probably shouldn't waste time/money on a natural cycle.

    I go for my third acupuncture appt Monday and I can feel a difference in my general health. I'm way more regular when it comes to going to the bathroom. Never thought I could take a serious "dump" :P at WORK! My right ovary has been active almost like I was ovulating (but it's way too early). There have been little crampy twinges. I'm also more relaxed in general...which is good because I'm too high strung at times. Still need to find a yoga class.

    Here's to hopeful sticky pumpkin seeds. I have to wait for AF on the 19th and then I'll be joining you ladies!! Good luck and stay positive. It's going to happen for us!

    Moe

    P.S. I had to drop friends off at the airport and they left the baby's carseat in my car. So I'm driving around with this carseat and keep catching myself look in the rearview mirror as if there's a baby back there!! So here's to positive baby energy....think I'll leave it in the car for the week they are away!
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe,
    Keep that car seat in the back! I think its great to look in the mirror and imagine your baby there! It sounds like fate right!

    I go for my second acupuncture appointment tomorrow. I am waking up less groggy each morning and have cut out all caffiene. I usually have a cup of tea in the morning. I will be switching to decafe tea in the morning. The hot drink is supposed to be good for me as according to the book I am reading I may have a cold uterus?! So I am sitting in my recliner with a heating pad on my lower abdomen to help with the cold.....this I can definatley get used too. Its amazing what can change by just some needles in certain parts of the body.

    I do 450 of the gonal-F. At the lower doses I got nothing so I start high. I am hoping that bc I am doing acupuncture I will get more and at a slower rate. Here's to my favorite ovary having a great month!

    Here's to those pumpkin seeds sticking!

    Robin
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi ladies,
    Been a bit MIA...i was going to post a week ago...AF came sept 26...went to see RE next day to start injectible process....and what do they find, a cyst!!! So I couldnt start. I wasnt sure about going on birth control pills (for cyst) but decided to try. I go back on Oct 12 to check on cyst. Dont know if I stop pill it counts as Day 1 bc wouldnt my period start? although technocally its day 17? Im confused, never had cyst before. Now wonder when I can try again?! Feeling down and disappointed...after 3 past IUI attempts and no cyst, why now?

    Sorry to bring the mood down. Good luck to you ladies!!!
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Maria,
    You didn't bring the mood down. We are here to help and support each other! Glad you are back. Cysts always come at the worst moments, don't they? Depending on what type of birth control they gave you will depend on when af comes again. The birth control will most likely take care of the cyst, so I wouldn't worry about that. When af comes again it will be cycle day 1 and youstart over again. Cysts are very common, so don't worry about that either. It just means that your baby was meant to come into this world in july not june! Continue to think positively;, your baby will be here before you know it!

    Sending lots of baby dust your way!

    Robin
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Thank you Robin!!! I'm glad I posted...I was hesitant because I've had a bit of a break, recuperating physically and emotionally....but I guess that's how it goes when we plan and have our hopes on one thing, we get a curve ball...but I am recovering from the disappointment.

    I'm feeling hopeful again...thanks again Robin, you made me feel better!
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe, don't take out that car seat, I agree with Robin and think it's awesome! I'm forever cleaning out the car and keep telling the dog that *soon* we won't be able to fold the seats up for her and she'll have to cram herself into the back back (she's 100 pounds, so I feel mean, but she does fit!)
    Robin, how did things go today? Can't wait to hear....
    I go in for egg retrieval on Friday morning, still have 6 follies, although they are different sizes and one is really big. So, we'll see how many are mature, and how many fertilize, and go from there! Really working hard on staying positive.
    I love that you ladies are doing accupuncture and diet methods. I've been *trying* to eat healthier (my Aunt is visiting and just lost 40 pounds on weight watchers, so that helped, plus she is a great chef!) I wanted to do massage more than anything, but the money just isn't there right now. I guess I can get my other half to learn how... ;) I'm going hiking tomorrow at the gorges up here, hopefully with the leaves turning it will be a nice walk.
    Maria, I know how devastating it can be to go in "gung-ho" waiting to start and finding out about a cyst. The first time it happened to me, I nearly blamed the NP doing my ultrasound. The one thing I learned from that experience was not to have expectations that were too high, while staying positive. When you don't have your heart totally set on something, the disappointment became manageable. That being said, I think some people NEED to be convinced it's going to work. Talk about your double messages! I'm "gung-ho" myself this IVF is going to work, it feels right, I'm staying positive, but somewhere, in the back of my little brain, I know there's science involved that I have no control over, and it *might* not be the right time. I just want to stay sane, become a mom, not necessarily in that order!
    Sorry if that made no sense, I'm procrastinating going to bed! Off I go, take care everyone,
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    So ladies,
    There are 2 sticky pumpkin seeds growing!!!! :o I made sure that she counted twice!! I saw them too. I am sure that my estrogen level is fine since we both could see the sticky seeds!! Another bonus, they are not quite ready yet! They are 11 and 12mm. I go back in on Sunday to see how big they are and might get the trigger then and have back to back iui's on Monday and Tuesday. Needless to say, I floated out of the doctor's office! :D the doc told me that both may not be ready or continue to grow, to which I said, I have never had two grow before so this is great news!

    Here's to October!!

    you are all in my thoughts and prayers on a daily basis. I am sending lots of baby dust to you all!

    Robin
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