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  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Moe,
    sounds like that doc didn't want to be there today! But is sounds like the sizes are good and you may be getting the trigger shot soon like tomorrow maybe? Here's to lots of baby dust to you! Hope you join me with a BFP!

    Robin
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Maria,

    Looks like I'll be joining you in the TWW! I have my IUI on Monday morning (I guess there's still hope for the great pumpkin since it's halloween right?)

    Moe, your doc sounded like a joy to deal with. I would have kept asking him questions just to irritate him! I hate when people act like they don't want to do their job and we've paid out our hard earned money for their services! I had a similar situation today! I had to run to my local wal mart pharmacy as I had a problem with the mail order pre natal vitamins that Medco sent me so they said they'd authorize a 7 day supply at my local pharmacy and will replace the damaged ones within 7 days. I go to pick them up and the pharmacist says "i don't see your baby bump" and i just said "no not yet" but that was not at all what I wanted to say to her.....for starters, "why are you being nosy and is it any of your business where my baby bump is?" Oh the things I thought about after I walked off. People are just something else sometimes! I'll have to be sure to go back in once I get my baby bump and show it to her!

    I went in today for a follie check and blood work and my IUI will be Monday morning at 9:30. I had 2 size 19 and a 12 on the left and a size 20 and a 12 on the right so the doc was real happy about those so my trigger is in about an hour so I shall end this now so I have time for a nice warm bath before hand so I can go to bed after that! I've been running around with a friend that was in town and I'm very tired!!

    Lots of baby dust ladies!
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Good luck Maria and Moe!
    And Moe, since when do we put up with rude doctors like that, hormones or not?! Yeesh, I don't think I would have been able to keep my cool, you deserve kudos for not giving him a piece of your mind. I wouldn't have wanted to know what HE was taking, just that he should have been knowledgeable about it anyway! I went into "Best Buy" during my last 2ww, and almost bit off three sales people's heads for not being able (or even trying to find out how to) answer my questions, then I came home and spent $0.95 on the internet and got exactly what I needed. Thanks for nothing!
    Oh wait, I'm not on hormones anymore, I better relax. Ok, getting all worked up again, and it's not even my business! Back to the kudos to you for keeping your cool, and wishing both you ladies a visit from the Great Pumpkin! I recorded it when it was on the other night, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet...
    I'm still taking a break, but thinking of you all, Robin, how is your pregnancy going? How many more weeks until your u/s?! I can't take the waiting!!
    ~Regan
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    I saw Dr. Sunshine again this morning. I'm not fond of him at all. I certainly don't want to lose my cool with a stranger that's about to poke a probe inside of me and "fish" around for follicles. :oops: And man does he get in there!! Not cool!! I've never had to move my knees over or tilt my pelvis but this was what was neccessary for him to get a good view. So over this part!!! Anyway, my bloodwork came back great my estrogen is 395 today and uterine lining is 10mm. The leading follie is 20.4 and I think there were a few others trailing behind but I can't remember the numbers. So tonight I will trigger and then schedule my IUI on Tuesday morning. Typically they would schedule back to back IUIs and I would go in tomorrow and again on Tuesday. But I decided to combine the two donor samples since the pre-thaw numbers look pretty pathetic, and just do one IUI 36 hrs after trigger on Tuesday.

    I'm glad that I will have my cycle buddies Christy and Maria to keep me sane! A few hours ago my right ovary started throbbing!! Guess the follie is doing some growing. Looks like I only needed 7 days of Menopur which is what it took last time but my estrogen is much better than previously. Hopefully, this is just what my body needed and the 5th IUI is a charm. Good luck ladies and remember to be encouraged. Sending lots of baby dust to everyone!!

    Moe!
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Maria, Moe and latebloomer,
    GOOD LUCK!!!! How great that all of you will be able to go through this tww together! Here's hoping that you all get to join me with a BFP! I would love to have some buddies through all of this! ;)

    Regan,
    I have an ultrasound on November 10th! I hope that all is well. According to baby center my due date, since I know the date of conception should be July 2 or 3rd! So it will be a lil pumpkin born around the 4th of July! I have had some nausea but it is usually just in the morning. Although I don't have much of an appetite through out the day. Nothing looks or smells appetizing. I make sure to eat though. I have oatmeal in the morning and drink herbal tea all day. I get up throughout the night to go to the bathroom. I usually get up at 3 am and then at 5 and then at 7. I sometimes have difficulty getting back to sleep.Usually when I get up at 3 my breasts hurt also, its kinda weird! I guess all of this is to get me ready for the 3 am feedings. Also according to baby center I am also 4 weeks pregnant I guess officially 4 weeks and 1 day today. I don't understand how they calculate all of this since it will technically be 3 weeks on Monday. I keep trying to see if I have any more symptoms, but that is driving me crazy! I need to just relax and have faith that this lil pumpkin is healthy and will continue to be so! The tww is nerve wracking but the first trimester is some what nerve wracking as well. It has its own set of worries that go along with it. I just need to get all that positivity that I had during the tww and turn it towards the pregnancy!Sometimes its hard not to think that af is right around the corner. I am so excited to be in this journey andam trying to get my fears under control! Hope all is well with you! I will post more about the ultrasound on the 10th right now I just have to sit back and relax! and remember to breath and enjoy this part of the journey!

    Robin
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Yah Robin, I hope all 3 of us can join you too!!!! Please keep us posted on your progress! :D
  • JanetJanet Member Member
    Robin, you and my gf will be due the same week! :D She was inseminated on Oct. 2nd, so should be due around the week of the 4th of July. :D Congratulations!

    Janet
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    I totally understand being a "worry wart" Robin, I don't think anything anyone says can change your fears, but you know what relaxes and eases your mind. Are you taking additional hormone support? (I had to take progesterone and lovenox - a blood thinner, to prevent a miscarriage due to low levels and something in my blood. The progesterone REALLY caused a lot of breast tenderness for me, so maybe that combined with the elevated hcg could be causing you to feel a little more uncomfortable than other pregnant women? Just thinking as I type (without a filter, as always)
    Looks like more ladies are about to be in their 2ww, so I'm sending out an extra amount of positive energy to you guys! And congrats to you and your girlfriend, Janet...So glad to hear about BFP's!
    I'm going to be down in Daytona Beach when you have your u/s Robin, but I'll try to check in. I'm purposefully NOT taking my laptop, and will be busy with family and wedding stuff, and am trying to get "away from myself". I hope to come home and have my head screwed back on and be back in the positive mind set for conception! Then add in wonderful drugs, perfect timing, and it will work! To think, I used to stress about sperm numbers post thaw, ovulation timing, etc. Now all I want is some follicles! And then, fertilization! And then, implantation! No, we don't want much, just that little miracle of life!
    I'm off to relax and get some sleep, I hope you all have a wonderful and safe Halloween! Not to mention warm, yeesh, it's 25 degrees here, and I don't know what all that white stuff is since it NEVER SNOWS BEFORE HALLOWEEN! See what happens when you say never... :lol:
    ~Regan
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan
    I am doing better with the fears. I have started just to imagine the lil pumpkin growing inside of me and envision what the baby should look like at this stage. It seems to be helping. I had acupuncture yesterday and she said that my pulses felt good and strong! I will admit that hhelped to ease my mind because I know that she can feel that I am pregnant in my pulse! I will now look forward to the 10th when I get to see a pic of my baby. I am so excited! Just 8 more days but who's counting?! I am not on any hormone supplements so all the symptoms are my own! The breast tenderness comes and goes. Some days they are more tender than others. Today not so bad. I think the acupuncture is helping with the nausea. Still nothing really looks appetizing although I sometimes have cravings for cheese and just have to have it, although it never tastes as good as I think it will.

    Janet,
    glad to here that I have a buddy through this journey! If you or she would like to talk that would be great! You can send me a PM.

    Here's to those July babies!

    Robin
  • ReganRegan Senior Member Senior Member
    Well, I found out why I wasn't mean to conceive last month. FLEAS! Lots and lots of FLEAS! And to add to my frustration, I treated all my furbabies with Frontline Plus. ARGGHHH!!
    So I've been busy with all these cleaning chemicals, that I KNOW would not be good for baby to be, not to mention helping my other half strip curtains and bedding and vacuum every day. So, with all this extra hard work to do around the house, there is some understanding in why maybe it just wasn't meant to be last month.
    I'm about to get excited for a trip down south, and then Holiday decorating when I return! Work has been awful, stress levels through the roof, not to mention a little depression seeping in, so I haven't been saying much due to my negative outlook. But, I AM trying really hard to turn it around and be more positive, so thought I'd step back out of my shell and say hello to everyone here, since I've come to enjoy the stories of others so much.
    I'm really blown away at all the 2ww this month, and everyone about to try for some success! I'm excited for all you all, and really hoping to see some more good news, Robin, what HAVE you started?
    I'm finally off to a shower, getting up in a few hours to drive to the city to see my father and brother (surprise quick visit). It is an excellent way to start my week (my Monday night begins on Saturday at 11pm). I'm only working three nights this week, then vacation begins, and before you know it, I'll be cycling and trying again! IVF#4 has to be the one...
    Sending out some turkey dust to everyone... I don't know if that's politically correct, so please forgive me, fatigue has set in! Good luck everyone!
    ~Regan
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Regan, we are all here to support eachother during this crazy challenging journey. It's so nice to see you checking in. Please don't stay away because you are feeling the fertility blues. We all get them and depending on where you are in your cycle, it can truly feel like a wet blanket that's smothering your existence. Know that there is light on the other side and you will come out of that dark place that appears more often than not during this fertility stuff. I just realized that it's been a year since I've started trying to become a single mom by choice. I just knew it would work right away on the first try. Boy was I in for a rude awakening and an expensive one at that!! Nothing is covered by my insurance which really adds insult to injury. So I have maternity coverage but nothing leading up to having help getting pregnant?! Anyway, everything happens for a reason right?

    Please don't be a stranger and remember to keep your head up. Pamper yourself and surround yourself with positive energy and supportive friends/family. It will happen when it's supposed to happen!!

    Be well!!
    Moe
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    Regan,
    Don't stay away just because you aren't feeling very positive. We are here to help you get through those difficult times.

    Sorry to hear about the fleas! Oh my goodness. I used to use frontline plus until I had the same problem with fleas. I called the company and they made many excuses and asked if I had bought the product in the united states! They then told me that frontline was not meant to keep fleas away just to stop infenstation! I have since switched to advantix and no longer have the problem with fleas. My dogs may get one occassionally but not the problems I have with frontline plus! with all the money you spend on all of this you should not have any fleas. Oh and my groomer said if you are around a lot of squirrels, like lots in your yard......they spread LOTS of fleas! I believe her becasue at my new house I have less squirrels and my dogs and cats have had less issues. My neighbor is now feeding the squirrels and I want to scream! I hope you are soon out of the defleaing business!

    On a side note......The tiredness seemed to hit me like a ton of bricks yesterday! I have been congested since I got my BFP and lost my voice on thursday. The congestion seems to be adding to the nausea a little but In don't mind it is alittle reminder each day that I am pregnant.

    I go fo my ultrasound on thursday now, 5 days away! I will let you all know how it goes!

    Robin
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi Ladies,

    Glad to see everyone is checking in! Me personally, I think I'm losing my ever loving mind! Everything/body seems to be on my last nerves (including myself if that makes any sense!). I am unbelievably irritated! It started Thursday evening but it's finally a little better today. I even cancelled my dental appt yesterday because I didn't feel like arguing! They called and said I was scheduled for a cleaning when in fact it was supposed to just be a check up. I was not in the mood for either so I just rescheduled for later! It seems that I can't get enough to eat even after eating a full meal. I know, the hormones, the hormones-they are so evil! Friday can't get here quick enough so I can get this BFP and have a better excuse for feeling crazy!

    Robin I'm excited for you to have your ultrasound this week! Keep us updated.

    Regan, please keep stopping by to keep us company and have lots of fun on your trip! The recharge will be just what you need:)

    Moe & Maria, how are you feeling?

    Charlotte did AF show up?

    Well ladies the hormones are insisting on being fed again so I must go rummaging through the kitchen to see what I can find! Lots of baby dust and positive thoughts for everyone!
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi ladies. Sounds like everybody us doing well. I am officially back in the game. AF showed up this weekend and I start my meds tomorrow!! It's amazing how sometime can really bring you back to life. Regan please go have some fun in your break I'm always here if you need to vent. Please don't feel bad about it, sometimes you just need to get it out.

    Late bloomer. I'm so excited that you are days away from finding out hopefully good news!

    Moe and Maria how much longer do you have? I am keeping my fingers and tie crossed for you all!!

    I am hoping to find a tww buddy this cycle!
  • jl2011jl2011 Member Member
    Hi ladies,

    I have my 5th IUI this wednesday. I will be trying acupuncture for the first time Tuesday. I know it is only one visit before the IUI...but I called around and spoke with multiple clinics that offer acupuncture for fertility and they all said they would not recommend acupuncture following an IUI for fear that it could cause me to abort the baby??? This freaked me out a little because I know lots of women on this forum talk about having acupuncture during their 2ww. Four different MD's told me this. They all said the same thing...that it is very strong and it could cause the uterus to abort the embryo.
    I am not meaning to scare anyone. So, please don't think that. I am just concerned. I will still be having the acupuncture the day before the IUI as they said that would be the most helpful time.
    Anyone ever heard of any of this or are they all crazy?
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    Wow that's crazy. I have never heard that before. My old accupuncturist recommended right before and right after. I'll ask my new one that I like a lot better this week! Good luck on Wednesday.
  • jl2011jl2011 Member Member
    Thanks girl! I'll need all the luck I can get. :D
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    J2011,
    You did not scare me with the acupuncture. I specifically went after the iui to help with implantation. If you have an experienced acupuncturist then they know where to put the needles to not abort the baby. After the iui they do NOT put the needles anywhere near the uterus or ovaries. I had them put in my ears and arms and legs. If you are nervous look at the research from a legitamate journal. I go to acupuncture every week and I got my bfp about 2 weeks ago. She is able to check my pulses and help with the nausea. I have not had any issues with the acupuncture. Some western docs don't believe in eastern medicine. I wonder why they told you not to do acupuncture after the iui? My fertility docs recommend the acupuncturist that I go to! She has spoken with them about how to work together, the one thing they decided is that she would not recommend any supplements as you do not know how they interact with the drugs. Talk to an experienced acupuncturist that specializes in fertility issues and ask how many pregnancies they have helped facilitate..... meaning live births. They should be willing to tell you this! Good luck in what ever you decide. What is right for me is not right for you.

    Lots of baby dust your way for a bfp!

    Robin
  • robinrobin Senior Member Senior Member
    I forgot to add that I had 1 acupuncture appointment the day after the second iui then nothing for 10 days to let nature take its course!

    Robin
  • jl2011jl2011 Member Member
    Thanks Robin! My appointment is tomorrow so I will be asking him questions about why they don't recommend it after the IUI. But, 3 others told me the same thing. I am in the South too...things are slightly different down here. :) He sounded shocked when I told him I was doing it alone. lol
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    Ok, I think I may be hallucinating....I swear when I took my pregnancy test this morning, there was a very faint line....but now I've looked at it (it's the evening) and I can't see the line....so I'm totally going to take another pregnancy test tomorrow morning. But I have a scheduled blood test on Wednesday.

    But for the few minutes this morning (before I went to work), and all day I was so excited thinking I was pregnant....I really hope there's a line tomorrow morning....I"ll keep you ladies posted.

    Moe, how are you doing???
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    OMG MARIA!!!! :mrgreen: This is very exciting!!! I really think it's the real thing and you are not hallucinating. Just know in your heart that this is your time :D I'm so very happy for you and can't wait to hear about your appt. Your beta is tomorrow right??!! Try and get some sleep tonight...good luck!

    Jl2011, basically ditto what Robin posted about acupuncture. PLUS she's a success story!! My acupuncturist was recommended by my fertility center and actually works in the suite within the same office building. She's got 7 years experience and comes with a wealth of information and understanding. I had my IUI last Tuesday morning and then that evening I had acupuncture. She recommended a 7-10 day break (to let nature take it's course) then resume the program but without any points being placed over the abdomen. She focused on several foot/leg points, wrists, and a couple of ear points. Previously, I couldn't stand the ear points but she has a better technique that my previous provider. I usually fall asleep. But it's not for everybody, have you thought about yoga or a meditation class? I hope that all goes well tomorrow and that you have a successful cycle.

    My TWW is half over. Only slight cramps and mildly tender boobs but nothing really to note. Oh since yesterday, my right eyelid has been twitching intermittently....it's soooooo annoying I want to tape a penny over it :evil:

    Wishing everyone a peaceful and quick TWW with BFPs :mrgreen: And lots of sticky baby dust.

    Moe!
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    Ok ladies. I just had the best massage in the world and it was geared towards fertity. I use just wondering if anybody else had one before. Did you like it? For those of you doing accupuncture I highly recommend adding a fertility massage in between appointments between days 3 and 9.
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Ok ladies. I just had the best massage in the world and it was geared towards fertity. I use just wondering if anybody else had one before. Did you like it? For those of you doing accupuncture I highly recommend adding a fertility massage in between appointments between days 3 and 9.

    Thanks Char! I had a couple of massages during my TTC efforts but nothing geared especially towards fertilty. Usually it was for stress relief. Glad you had a good experience. How are you doing? Getting ready to gear up for your IUI?? When are you going for your next appt? Wishing you lots of luck and sticky baby dust!!
    Moe!

    P.S. Has Maria checked in with anyone?? I'm praying for you and hope that all is well. Please send me a PM if you need to chat.
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
    HI Moe!

    you are getting so close to seeing that BFP!!! I can't wait to hear your news this week! What day do you get your beta again..tuesday? Do you think you will break down and buy the HPT or are you going to hold out?

    The massage was really awesome. It was about a half hour geared towards fertility, meaning a lot of work on my stomach. Followed by what i think was an hour regular massage. I am going to add massages to my weekly pre-ovulation schedule. I will have a regular massage to relax the day prior to the iui which i think will be either thursday and friday or friday and saturday. I am super excited and just hoping i can get these last 5 pounds off this week to hit my weight loss goal for the month (25 lbs total)

    Accupuncture is really helping me find my center and just not worry about when it will happen, if it will work, if it will EVER work and all the other thinks that have been swirling around my mind since april. I feel calm cool and collected and ready to make a healthy baby.


    That is funny you mentioned Maria, I have been thinking about her a lot too. I do remember her saying somewhere that she was going on a vacation right after she found out so maybe she just got busy. I am also here Maria if you need anything!!


    Lots of luck to the 5th iui group and everybody else waiting.

    Charlotte
  • latebloomerlatebloomer Senior Member Senior Member
    Hi Ladies,

    Just wanted to check in with my update. No BFP and let me tell you I was quite surprised! AF came 4 days early so I have no idea what my body is up to these days! I did get sort of an early birthday present/glimmer of hope though. I had company over the weekend and I couldn't have gotten the bad news with a better more compassionate person. He's my childhood best friend and was like, wow I know you told me you were doing this but I had no idea what all you had been through (he started asking questions so I told him everything from A-Z, including all about my awesome virtual lady friends on here:) so his response was he will "help" me get a baby no matter what it takes. I was stunned. I know he's kind and has the biggest heart but wow, how selfless is that?! So I'm off to the doc next week to see what the next course of action is and see what it's going to take to bring my friend into the picture. My outlook is good and other than that I had a fabulous weekend and even enjoyed a few glasses of wine (oh it had been sooo long since I'd had a great glass of wine!) So next week I'll turn the big 4-0 and get a new plan and keep moving forward.

    This just means that since it wasn't my turn then it must be someone elses! Moe, Maria, Anne, Charlotte.....one (or more) of you is it! Waiting for your updates!
  • moewhitmoewhit Senior Member
    Hi Latebloomer,
    You have such a wonderful supportive friend! It's wonderful that he's offered to help you. I'm sorry about your BFN but it's important to keep your head in the game and have a plan. I got a BFN this morning which was confirmed by my beta this afternoon. I didn't think it was a successful cycle but just wanted to wait and see what the tests said. According to the RN and MD usually they do 3 cycles of Clomid and/or injectables then the next step is IVF. Not an option although at this point I've spent probably close to the amount one IVF cycle would cost out of pocket. So I will go through the process of finding another donor this week and preparing for IUI #6 on Menopur slightly (higher dose). I hope that the rest of you ladies breezing through your TWW get your BFP's soon.

    Good luck! And wishing everyone lots of positive energy and sticky baby dust!!
    Moe!
  • maria2maria2 Senior Member Senior Member
    So I'm sorry to say that it was negative for me. I would have written sooner but I found out the morning (hours before I left for Cabo)...so needless to say, I was drinking it up in Cabo. I've been so sad and devastated because for one whole day, I felt pregnant. Now I'm pretty sure that I'm done...I'm giving myself a few months if I want to do another one, but I don't think so. I also didn't want to post because I don't want to be "debbie downer" for those who are in their TWW....

    i really hope someone gets a positive soon...I need to feel encouraged or maybe feel hope if I read that someone who has tried 4+ times has gotten the BFP! I'm such at odds with everything and have no idea what I do next...Sorry ladies...

    But thank you ladies for thinking of me....I'm so confused...I just can't afford IVF (I'm a social worker) and really don't know if I can afford another IUI (#5) because it'll end up being another $2300+ since my injectables aren't covered. I just wish I knew I'd get pregnant, then I'd pay for it...just got so devastated this time with the BFN...I'm still devastated and crying off and on...
  • hopefulcharhopefulchar Senior Member Senior Member
     
    Maria

    I can completely understand how sad and frustrated you feel right now. I certainly have had my share of ups and downs on this terribly long stressful journey. I am days away from my 8th :o iui. I know I should probably feel desperate but I don't. I know dedication to this process or really anything for that matter brings much success. I spent a little time going through old posts on this forum to hopefully give you (and anybody else struggling to keep going) the strength to dust yourself off and get your head back to that good place. :D lots of women have gotten pregnant after the 6th, 9th or even 14th attempts. I am here for you if you need anything!




     I tried 5 IUIs to no avail. I decided to try accupuncture weekly for about four months then went in for my 6th IUI (also with a different donor this time) and it worked. I was told it could take 9 to 12 tries. So please don't give up

    I know the pain of the monthly negatives...or Bloody show, meaning something took but didn't continue. It's aweful and leads to feeling desperate. I did 9 IUI attempts. My son was # 9. I was ready to try ivf with an egg donor... I didn't believe the ninth attempt worked but a little voice popped into my head one night..."Heh mom, I'm here!" 

    My partner and I had the same problem. We had our first child in 2008. It took us 7 tries using IUI with a fertility specialist

    Good luck to all of you out there and stay positive....it took up 14 attempts to get pregnant with our now 4 yr old and only 4 tries with our 2 yr old.

    .. I succeeded on my 7th IUI - so never give up! I tried a couple natural (unmedicated) IUI's By medicated, I meant injectables... I succeeded on my 7th IUI - 

    We are on our 7th IUI.Yikes!  FAST FORWARD 2 WEEKS.... Well girls, drumroll please!! Survey says, B to the F to the P!!:P The miracle we have been waiting so long for is here. I'm still in shock!!

     IUI #6 I was again on Clomid plus I did a couple ultrasounds and a trigger shot to time things just right...that was my 1st BFP.

    It took us five tries--3 with clomid and 2 with injectibles until I conceived and I was 42 at the time. I'm amazed but it worked!! Best of luck to you

    I was using a previous donor and switched after 6 unsuccessful attempts. I got pregnant on the first insemination


    We went through nine attempts with our first donor, then switched to another and were successful the first try. 
  • sweetpeasweetpea Member Member
    Thanks for always being positive Charlotte. I know that this time will be your time and I wish you all of the luck in the world. I wish I could not be so negative about this process. It all really comes down to the timing and I have just never felt right about that yet. I also have to do all of my IUI's unmedicated since nothing is covered under my insurance and I can't afford the medication. I might take a month off to settle myself like you did and maybe I will come back with a clearer head. :cry:
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